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How to commission independent testing — need advice

SkepticalSean Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 7:31 PM 16 replies 1,834 viewsPage 2 of 4
Dr.BariatricHTX
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Feb 23, 2025 at 1:07 AM#6
Dr.LipidDallas said:
They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate.

I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is. The document tells you about a sample somebody chose to send, at a moment in time, and nothing about the vial in your hand. Independent purchase-and-test is a different quality of evidence and everything else is inference.

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Feb 23, 2025 at 3:19 AM#7
SkepticalSean said:
I have a certificate reporting 99.2% purity and 6.1mg content on a vial sold as 5mg, and I cannot work out whether those two numbers are consistent or…

I tested my certificates of analysis batch through Janoshik — 99.2% purity. That's within acceptable range for compounded peptides. Turnaround was 14 business days.

The test costs ~$134 but gives you actual HPLC chromatography data plus mass spec confirmation. For the peace of mind alone, it's worth every penny. I test every new batch from a new vendor.

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Feb 23, 2025 at 5:31 AM#8
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is.

COA red flags for certificates of analysis — here's what to look for when reviewing a Certificate of Analysis:

  • No HPLC data: If there's no chromatography graph, it's not a real COA
  • Exact 100% purity: Suspicious — real testing always shows slight variation
  • No batch number: Can't trace back to specific production
  • No endotoxin testing: For injectables, this is essential
  • Template looks like it was made in Word: Professional labs have standardized formats

I have seen fake COAs that are literally photoshopped. Always verify independently if possible.

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Feb 23, 2025 at 7:43 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Why two laboratories report different purity for the same batch, and which number to believe?

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Feb 23, 2025 at 6:17 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Purity and content being different measurements was the piece I was missing. The vial was overfilled and pure, which is a very different problem from the one I thought I had.

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