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Inter-lab variability in peptide testing — July 2024

PedsEndoPhilly Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 9:32 PM 52 replies 2,419 viewsPage 3 of 11
Dr.GastroMayo
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Feb 2, 2025 at 9:50 AM#11
jim_asheville said:
Reconstituted peptide stability data for certificates of analysis: I had Janoshik test my reconstituted vial at day 1, day 14, and day 28 stored in…

Vendor quality matters when discussing certificates of analysis. I've tested my last 6 batches through Janoshik and purity has ranged from 98.9% to 100.3%. Consistency is key.

For anyone new: always request the COA, and consider independent verification. The $300 for a Janoshik test is worth the peace of mind.

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Feb 3, 2025 at 1:23 AM#12
tammy_FL said:
One addition: an unstated method makes a report close to uninterpretable.

Saving this. It is the first explanation that did not require me to already understand it. Taking it to my next appointment.

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Feb 3, 2025 at 4:56 PM#13
jim_asheville said:
Reconstituted peptide stability data for certificates of analysis: I had Janoshik test my reconstituted vial at day 1, day 14, and day 28 stored in…

COA red flags for certificates of analysis — here's what to look for when reviewing a Certificate of Analysis:

  • No HPLC data: If there's no chromatography graph, it's not a real COA
  • Exact 100% purity: Suspicious — real testing always shows slight variation
  • No batch number: Can't trace back to specific production
  • No endotoxin testing: For injectables, this is essential
  • Template looks like it was made in Word: Professional labs have standardized formats

I have seen fake COAs that are literally photoshopped. Always verify independently if possible.

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Feb 4, 2025 at 8:29 AM#14
PedsEndoPhilly said:
Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

Mass spectrometry confirmation for certificates of analysis: beyond HPLC purity, mass spec tells you the molecule's exact molecular weight. This confirms identity — not just purity.

Why this matters: HPLC can show you a "pure" compound, but if it's pure of the WRONG compound, purity is meaningless. Mass spec at m/z 4113.58 Da confirms it's actually semaglutide. My Janoshik report includes both HPLC and mass spec.

If your testing provider only offers HPLC, consider upgrading to include mass spec for at least your first batch from a new vendor.

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Moderator note: leaving this open. It is being argued well and the disagreement is the useful part. Tagging this one for the weekly digest.

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