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PedsEndoPhilly Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 1:15 AM 8 replies 1,064 viewsPage 2 of 2
pete_manc_UK
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Oct 27, 2025 at 1:34 PM#6
Dr.ObesityLA said:
PedsEndoPhilly said: ...regarding food noise mechanism of action...

Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation. Real hunger: gradual onset, physical stomach sensation, any food sounds good. Phantom hunger: sudden, emotionally triggered, specific food cravings, occurs right after eating.

The GLP-1 agonist suppresses real hunger beautifully. Phantom hunger still pops up but I can now recognize it for what it is — an emotional signal, not a physical need. Mindfulness training helped enormously with this distinction.

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Oct 27, 2025 at 6:26 PM#7
PedsEndoPhilly said:
The thing that changed for me was not hunger, it was that the constant background negotiation about food simply stopped, and I had not realised it was…

Central vs peripheral GLP-1R signaling in food noise: elegant studies using brain-penetrant vs peripherally-restricted GLP-1 agonists show that ~80% of the weight loss effect is centrally mediated[1].

The key brain regions: arcuate nucleus (appetite), area postrema (nausea), NTS (satiety), VTA/NAc (reward). Peripheral effects (gastric emptying, insulin secretion) contribute but are secondary for weight loss.

This has implications for next-gen drugs: optimizing brain penetration and CNS receptor occupancy may be more important than systemic exposure.

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[1] Secher A, et al. J Clin Invest. 2014;124(10):4473-4488.
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Dr.SurgeonPGH
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Oct 27, 2025 at 11:18 PM#8
pete_manc_UK said:
Phantom hunger vs real hunger on food noise: learning to distinguish between the two has been a revelation.

Neuroscience perspective on food noise:

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area postrema, and — critically — the mesolimbic reward pathway[1].

This is directly relevant to food noise because the central effects of GLP-1 agonists extend far beyond simple appetite suppression. The reduction in "food noise" that patients describe is likely mediated by modulation of dopaminergic signaling in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.

The emerging data on reduced addictive behaviors (alcohol, gambling) further supports this mechanism. food noise should be understood in this broader neurobiological context.

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[1] Merchenthaler I, et al. J Comp Neurol. 1999;403(2):261-280.
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Oct 28, 2025 at 4:10 AM#9

One thing that is still open after tane_welly’s answer:

Was that from a primary source or from a summary of one?

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Oct 29, 2025 at 3:34 AM#10
Dr.SurgeonPGH said:
Neuroscience perspective on food noise: GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area…

Rebound hunger after missed dose of food noise: I missed my injection by 3 days due to a shipping delay and the hunger came ROARING back. Like a switch flipped. It was eye-opening to feel the difference.

This experience actually reinforced my understanding of what the medication does — it's not just "suppressing appetite," it's normalizing dysregulated hunger signaling. When the drug wears off, you feel the full force of what it was managing.

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