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Is oral sema actually as effective as the injection version? — 12 month update

tommy_boulder Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 3:17 AM 35 replies 1,548 viewsPage 2 of 7
InsuranceTom
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Dec 16, 2025 at 7:42 AM#6
Dr.AddMedPHL said:
The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…

I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience. Adherence data on daily orals with timing requirements is consistently worse than weekly injections, and a drug you take imperfectly is a lower dose than the one on the box.

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Dec 16, 2025 at 9:26 AM#7

Adding the numbers, since they settle part of this. Give anything pharmacological four weeks before you judge it, and give anything measured weekly a four-point rolling average before you call it a trend.

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Dec 16, 2025 at 11:10 AM#8
InsuranceTom said:
I do not accept that the fasting window is a minor inconvenience.

Coming at InsuranceTom’s question from a different direction. If two explanations both fit, the useful question is which one predicts something the other does not. That is answerable; arguing about which sounds more plausible is not.

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Dec 16, 2025 at 12:54 PM#9

One thing that is still open after CanadaChris’s answer:

Whether the fasting requirement is as strict in practice as the label implies, and what people actually see when they get it wrong?

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Dec 16, 2025 at 9:11 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Follow-up: moving the tablet to the moment I wake, before anything else, was the whole fix. The dose never changed.

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