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Sep 24, 2024 at 1:02 PM#1

The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is whether the quiet is the same mechanism as the appetite suppression or a separate one, because they seem to come and go on different schedules.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 2:04 PM#2
DerekSJ_a1c said:
The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related hospitalizations in GLP-1 agonist users[1].

The mechanism is plausible: GLP-1R is expressed in the mesolimbic reward pathway (VTA, nucleus accumbens). Agonism at these receptors may reduce the reinforcing properties of alcohol, similar to the reduction in "food noise."

RCTs for GLP-1 agonists in AUD are now underway. If positive, this would be a paradigm-shifting repurposing of existing medications.

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[1] Wang W, et al. Nat Med. 2024;30:574-584.
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Sep 24, 2024 at 3:06 PM#3
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
The GLP-1 and alcohol use disorder connection, relevant to food noise: observational data from Scandinavian registries shows reduced alcohol-related…

"Food aversion" side effect of food noise that I wasn't prepared for: I used to LOVE cooking and trying new restaurants. Now certain foods — especially heavy cream sauces — literally repulse me.

It's not just reduced appetite; it's an active disgust response. My therapist says this is common and likely related to the reward pathway modulation. It's mostly a positive change, but I do miss enjoying food the way I used to.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 4:08 PM#4
DerekSJ_a1c said:
The food noise came back three weeks after I reduced my dose, well before the weight moved, which tells me something about which effect tracks what.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud. Nothing to add that would improve it.

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Sep 24, 2024 at 10:01 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Neuroscience perspective on food noise:

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the CNS, with high density in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, area postrema, and — critically — the mesolimbic reward pathway[1].

This is directly relevant to food noise because the central effects of GLP-1 agonists extend far beyond simple appetite suppression. The reduction in "food noise" that patients describe is likely mediated by modulation of dopaminergic signaling in the VTA and nucleus accumbens.

The emerging data on reduced addictive behaviors (alcohol, gambling) further supports this mechanism. food noise should be understood in this broader neurobiological context.

References:
[1] Merchenthaler I, et al. J Comp Neurol. 1999;403(2):261-280.
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