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Echocardiographic changes on GLP-1 — anyone have experience?

pete_manc_UK Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 11:25 PM 12 replies 2,022 viewsPage 3 of 3
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Apr 22, 2024 at 8:15 AM#11
paige_pharma said:
Dr.GastroMayo said: ...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

The SELECT trial demonstrated a 20% reduction in MACE with semaglutide 2.4mg[1]. This is practice-changing because the CV benefit appears to be independent of the degree of weight loss — suggesting direct vascular and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

For cardiovascular risk, this means we need to think beyond the primary outcome and consider the cardiovascular implications. The all-cause mortality reduction (HR 0.81) is the most clinically meaningful signal.

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[1] Lincoff AM, et al. N Engl J Med. 2023;389(24):2221-2232.
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Apr 23, 2024 at 8:36 PM#12
GraceAZ_72 said:
I'm 67 years old and want to share my perspective on cardiovascular risk as an older member of this community.

This is exactly what I could not find anywhere else. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.

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Apr 25, 2024 at 8:56 AM#13
paige_pharma said:
Dr.GastroMayo said: ...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

Dizziness and cardiovascular risk: I was lightheaded for the first 3 weeks. Root cause was a combination of reduced caloric intake and mild dehydration.

Fix: minimum 80-100oz water daily, don't skip meals even if you're not hungry (eat small protein-rich snacks), and stand up slowly from sitting/lying positions. Also check your blood pressure — GLP-1-induced weight loss can make BP meds too strong, requiring dose reduction.

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Apr 26, 2024 at 9:16 PM#14
pete_manc_UK said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Mendelian randomization evidence supporting GLP-1 pathway modulation for cardiovascular risk: genetic variants in the GLP1R gene region associated with lower BMI also show associations with reduced cardiovascular risk, confirming a causal pathway[1].

This "natural experiment" (people born with genetically higher GLP-1 signaling being leaner and healthier) provides orthogonal evidence supporting the pharmacological approach. When genetic epidemiology, clinical trials, and mechanistic studies all converge, confidence in the therapeutic approach is high.

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[1] Zheng SL, et al. Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol. 2023;11(12):869-879.
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Apr 28, 2024 at 9:35 AM#15

Moderator note: the sourcing question belongs in the vendor section and has been split out.

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