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ForumsCardiovascular OutcomesHas anyone dealt with apob reduction on tirzepatide? Page 2

Has anyone dealt with apob reduction on tirzepatide?

tampaLisa73 Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 11:05 AM 41 replies 2,416 viewsPage 2 of 9
HPLC_Greg
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Apr 27, 2025 at 1:20 AM#6
Dr.MetabolicMD said:
Steady state is faster than people expect: half-life about five days, so you are at plateau in roughly three to four weeks rather than five.

This is where I part company with the consensus forming above. The "tirzepatide is simply better" summary irritates me. It is better on mean weight loss, and the cardiovascular outcome evidence is far thinner than semaglutide's. If the reason for treating is cardiovascular risk rather than weight, the evidence base points the other way.

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Apr 27, 2025 at 6:59 AM#7

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. One habit that pays for itself: post the method alongside the number. A figure without its method cannot be checked, and an unchecked figure is how this community accumulates folklore.

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Apr 27, 2025 at 12:38 PM#8
HPLC_Greg said:
The "tirzepatide is simply better" summary irritates me.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. ApoB is the more informative number and it is cheap. LDL-C estimates cholesterol mass in atherogenic particles; ApoB counts the particles, and it is particle count that tracks risk — which is why the two can disagree and why the disagreement is the clinically interesting case. Triglycerides fall substantially with weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity, HDL moves modestly, and LDL-C often barely moves at all, which surprises people who expected everything to improve together.

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Apr 27, 2025 at 6:17 PM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Whether anyone has held 10mg long term rather than climbing, and what happened over the following year?

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Apr 28, 2025 at 9:23 PM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Update: the eight-week restart pattern people described is exactly what happened. I nearly abandoned it at week five.

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