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High protein fast food options - yes they exist — looking for input

Dr.PainCLE Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 12:43 AM 47 replies 2,858 viewsPage 1 of 10
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Dr.PainCLE
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Sep 12, 2024 at 12:43 AM#1

I tracked honestly for two weeks and averaged 68g of protein against a target of about 120g. That gap is the whole problem and no meal plan I have found is written for it.

What would genuinely help is knowing whether the RDA is the wrong reference entirely during rapid weight loss, and what the actual target should be.

Practical detail welcome, however dull — the duller the better.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 1:50 AM#2

Taking the question as asked, rather than the general version of it. On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie. Isolate powders, Greek yoghurt and cottage cheese, egg whites, lean fish, and tinned tuna all deliver a lot of protein in a small physical volume. Front-load it: appetite is usually least suppressed in the first hours after waking and worst on the day or two after dosing, so get the majority in early in the day and early in the week.

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Dr.ReproEndo
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Sep 12, 2024 at 2:57 AM#3
HPLC_Greg said:
On a suppressed appetite the winning strategy is protein density per unit of volume, not per calorie.

True, and anyone with reduced kidney function needs that target set by a clinician rather than a forum. High protein is safe in normal kidneys and is not automatically safe in impaired ones.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 4:04 AM#4
Dr.PainCLE said:
I tracked honestly for two weeks and averaged 68g of protein against a target of about 120g.

Same position here, arrived at the long way round. The RDA is the wrong reference and it is worth understanding why. 0.8 g/kg is the intake at which nitrogen balance is not negative in healthy weight-stable adults — a floor for deficiency prevention, not an optimum, and derived in a population that is not in a deficit. In a substantial energy deficit, protein requirement rises because amino acids are being oxidised for energy and because muscle protein synthesis is blunted. The literature on preserving lean mass during weight loss lands around 1.4 to 2.0 g/kg of reference body weight, which is roughly two to two and a half times the RDA.

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LibrarianMeg
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Sep 12, 2024 at 10:32 AM#5

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

DEXA scan update relevant to protein intake:

Scanned at months 0, 6, and 12. Here are the body comp numbers:

BaselineMonth 6Month 12
Total mass269 lbs234 lbs216 lbs
Fat mass119 lbs69 lbs51 lbs
Lean mass157 lbs144 lbs153 lbs
Body fat %38%30%25%

Lean mass preserved — actually GAINED 1-2 lbs thanks to progressive overload + 1.4g/kg protein. The protein intake discussion needs to include body comp data, not just scale weight.

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